I would say about half of you reading listen to my husband’s radio show & the other half have found me through the crafting/blogging world, I want to talk about something that stems from what happened yesterday on the radio but really pertains to all of us so bear with me even if you aren’t a Kane Show listener…
Yesterday P had a ‘family meeting’ to explain why Melanie, one of the co-hosts, had left the show. In that conversation he mentioned me being sick & how in order to be there for me at Mayo in Jacksonville he couldn’t give as much time at work. There’s only so much one person can do & trust me when I say my husband is the hardest working man I’ve ever met in my life. He will go go go for his family & his job until his body literally gives out on him. You can’t stop him from that either, it’s just who he is.
After his explanation of what happened I received a whole bunch of wonderful emails from people who heard him on the show but hadn’t really known me or LPM, they were all so sweet & heart felt. Reading the stories of other young women who have gone through this same rough journey that I’m on is beyond encouraging & knowing that people will take the time to look for my blog, open their email & send me, a stranger, their personal stories & well wishes is truly beautiful. Strangers showing love through online connections. It makes you think society must be full of love right?
One of the emails mentioned that she found my blog by googling “Kane’s wife’s blog”, that caught my attention, I’ve googled myself a few times (you know you’ve done it too!) & never really found much but that phrase never crossed my mind. So of course I did it. Wish I hadn’t…
I found a few message board threads about DC mommy bloggers & I was so taken back at how horrible other local moms can be! They don’t know me or how much of my heart I’ve put into LPM yet they had no problem saying to others…
“I find it and her annoying. Should I just admit to being a hater?”
“If I was a SAHM, would I spend my time making little crafty things? Probably not.”
“Every time I see a carefully crafted mommy blog like that, I wonder why the hell they don’t get a real job since they obviously have time.”
Here’s my honest reaction when I read those among others…I laughed. I mean, really? What is this high school?
It really is just part of the job that when you’re affiliated with a medium that puts your life in the public eye (moreso my husband’s job than my blog) you’re going to get some grown up women who never grew beyond being mean girls that are so unhappy with themselves that their first reaction is to spew hate to others. I can actually shake that off pretty easily. P & I have been doing this for 7 years, you learn to let it go.
Here’s what I can’t shake off.
There’s something very special about the crew that’s on the Kane Show now, we have Danni, John & Eric over our house all the time & I love the family dynamic we’ve settled into. I’ve been in the radio world for more than 10 years & I know this group is something special. My kids adore John, they come running when he & his lovely girlfriend Laura come to the door. Eric knows me so well & even brought me a nice bottle of whiskey to make hot toddies when I was sick this past week. And then there’s Danni. Danni is the new girl, although I truly mean this when I say I feel like I’ve known her forever. I’ll be honest with you, I adored Sarah. She & I spent a lot of time together & I was really sad when she chose to leave, I actually resolved after that to not get so personally involved with P’s co-hosts because it felt like a break up when she left.
I’ve never met someone who is so genuine. She says exactly what she means & I love that, but there’s more. I don’t know how she does it but once you get to talking to Danni, like really talking to her, you realize that she’s completely willing to bear her soul to you. I’m sure that’s gotten her into trouble along the way, when someone is willing to make themselves vulnerable there will be people that will take advantage of that but Danni has somehow managed to be an extremely strong woman yet is still completely willing to make herself vulnerable by loving & caring for anyone who needs it.
This morning I was going through my instagram & started reading through a thread that mentioned my husband & I, it really didn’t say anything too bad about me but my goodness I couldn’t believe how strangers could type such horrible things about Danni. I truly do not understand. What is it about the anonymity of a phone or keyboard that brings out such incredible nastiness in people??? We’re constantly hearing stories on the news about bullying & how teens are literally killing eachother over social media nastiness yet we as adults are more than willing to do the same thing? Aren’t we better than that? I’m sure every person who left a nasty comment about my husband or Danni has at some point had their feelings hurt by someone being mean to them. Didn’t that feel bad? Why do that someone else? Especially someone you have never met. Someone you do not know. Why?
I was talking with Danni this morning & trying to encourage her to be strong & not take to heart what nasty people are saying because they’re unhappy about the changes in the show but there’s only so much a girl can take. She told me that someone actually posted that they hope her daughter dies. Her two year old sweet little girl. Can you imagine as a mother hearing a stranger that you’ve never met tell you that about your child? You’d lose your mind right?
So I want to ask you to do me a favor, please…
If you’re a mother, a daughter, sister or friend please think before you type. Words hurt, even if their from strangers on twitter or instagram.
If you want to do something nice please leave a comment for Danni, she’s a darn sweet mother who’s unfairly being bullied by people who are unhappy with changes in the morning show. Changes I might add that were absolutely not what any of us in our little family wanted. You can find Danni on instagram @iamdannistarr or on twitter @iamdannistarr
I’m sorry to go on this tangent but nobody is gonna mess with my family and not hear something from me!
Dawn
Beautiful and very well said! Mean girls(because I refuse to call them “women” ) just suck!!!
Sara
Wonderful post. I love how you show that two women (you and Danni) can have a real friendship that isn’t about nonsense and drama. Internet thugs are ridiculous. Way to back up your girl with out getting sucked into the madness, or stooping to someone else’s level. Take care.
Melissa King
Natasha- LOVE this! I love you, Kane, John, Erick, & Danni. I love hearing about your families. I agree 100% with you! People – adults can be so mean and immature. The sad thing is these adults have kids and their kids will have similar behaviors thanks to their bully-like immature parents. I respect Danni, you and the whole Kane show. Love you all! I can’t believe someone said that horrible thing to Danni. I will let her know I’m in support of her. (And no matter the reason Mel left, wish her the best. The show will go on. No one is at fault. She chose to leave.)
Natasha
Thanks Melissa & let me add that I totally wish Mel the very best, she’s always been kind to me & she’s a crafty girl too so you know I love that! We all wish her nothing but happiness.
Melissa King
Oops I meant I wish her the best. Typo. Lol. I know you did too. Didn’t mean to tell you to do so. Sorry if I sounded that way. Hope you are feeling better both physically and are encouraged by your Mayo news!!! Thinking about you!
Christina
Hi. I just started following you on Instagram and saw your link to here. Thank you for posting this. I’m really sorry people are so evil. I have commented encouragement for my Danni. It’s terrible that people can be so mean. I can’t let myself believe that these people who spew such hatred can possibly be parents. Not that there is any excuse, but as a single mom of a 5 year old, who was bullied just last year, words hurt everyone. Bullying spreads hurt, hate and negativity and it’s not a world I want my son, your girls, baby MJ or any child to grow up in. So thank you for being public and vocal about such ignorant evil. And I believe that if the good ones stay vocal, and positive, we can spread love, acceptance and friendship. ❤️
Natalie
Danni IS genuine and a good mama. Just because she doesn’t sugar coat anything doesn’t mean she is rude or doesn’t care. People are so mean and need to mind their own business. We love you Danni!
Teresa
I have been listening to the show for YEARS. Was not too sure when Kane came along but fell in love with the Kane Crew. Was sad when Sammy and Sarah left but I believe the new Kane family is wonderful. I had seen Danni on bridezillas and love how real she is. Just a young mother. John is funny and sounds sweet. I learned about your blog from the show and read it often. I love hearing the family dynamic everyone has and people leave Danni alone. Just let them be, You guys are great and god bless everyone.
Rachel
Very well said, Natasha. I am a loyal Kane Show listener and came across your blog as a result (I’m a loyal LPM follower, too!). I talk about you guys like you’re family because I spend so much of my week with your hubby and the Kane Show family (I live in MD and teach in Gaithersburg, too…hope I can run into you all one day, but I know I’d be star-struck!). I thought Kane’s family meeting yesterday was incredibly genuine and heartfelt, but I was appalled by some people’s comments on his Facebook post about it. People really do get ballsy when they have a computer or phone to hide behind. I am heartbroken about the comment about Danni’s sweet girl! I follow her on Instagram and it is undeniable how much she cherishes that little girl. I can’t believe someone would say something so hurtful. Lots of love to you, Danni, and the entire Kane Show family in the wake of this morning show shake-up. Keep your chins up! Love you all!
Laura
Natasha,
Thank you for addressing this out of control issue! This has been insane. I listened to the “family meeting” yesterday and I was so impressed with the way it was handled. Shortly after, I decided to jump on Twitter and Instagram and see what kind of uproar it had caused. I expected the typical, “We will miss her” type comments but oh my gosh, I have never read such hateful words in my entire life. I tweeted to the show staff to offer some encouragement. When you talk to Danni, please tell her that we all love her!
Eric L.
I was always taught that if you have nothing nice to say, don’t say it at all. That holds true on Facebook Instagram etc.
She’s doing a job just like you and me. If you don’t like listening to her, listen to someone else or deal with it.
Terra
Hey Natasha! I am so glad you posted this. It deffinatly means a lot to Danni. But Also I means a lot to many people. So many people get bullyied and it’s nice to someone who doesn’t just sit by and watch it happen. I have been listening to the Kane show for almost 4 years now I’ve heard it all with them and honestly there is no way Danni bullied Mel. You could always hear the love in her voice when she was talking to Mel. Danni has that effect on people even when she is talking on the radio I feel like she is talking directly to me. She gets people and that’s a true gift. She is a strong person and the people who are bullying her clearly need a reality check. I love you Danni! I know that you would never do anything to hurt Mel people just need to simmer down. YOU GO GIRL! Xoxo
P.S. Don’t any of you guys dear threaten MJ.
Rosy Benitez
Good morning! I would like to start with saying that I have been a Kane show listener for many many years now, I just love having them as my company on my way to work, so when Sammy and Sarah were no longer on the show I was really sad about it. You grow to love the Kane show family as your family, u learn about their personal life and their families it just makes u feel so close to them, so it was a little hard to get use to hearing new voices on the show when Intern John and Danni came along, at first I didn’t know what to make of them, it was strange lol… But bcuz I love the show I wasn’t gonna stop listening lol and I’m so glad I didn’t. I absolutely LOVE the Kane show family now with who is on the air, they just connect so so well together I love how close u all are, but I do gotta admit Danni is my favorite lol just like u said she so genuine and says what she means and I love that about her she will tell it how it is and that is such an awesome characteristic to have and not only that she is so humble and sweet! Her love for others and especially to her husband and daughter I just love it, as a mother and wife I can so relate to her with so much. So to Danni: keep that chin up boo cuz u are so so loved by those who truly love and care for u… “Those who matter don’t mind and those who mind don’t matter” love u Danni!! Hope to meet u one day!! Keep being awesome!! Xoxo
Wendy
I actually had similar thoughts going through my mind yesterday with the weather cancellations. No matter what, whether there were cancellations or not cancellations, people were spouting out such hateful comments, calling the decision makers assholes and other names. I was taken aback, to be honest, at the level of hatred that was spewing over what must be a very difficult job. The poor people who make those calls are damned if they do, damned if they don’t.
But, more than that, it made me think about all of the bullying that goes on today with kids/adolescents. Most adults are quick to say how horrible it is, how shameful… yet adults engage in/model the exact same behavior, albeit often annonymously. It made me take a careful look at myself, and what I model for my own daughter. Someone cuts me off in traffic? I’m quick to namecall. I know my daughter’s school has a huge anti-bullying curriculum; but I’m wondering if that shouldn’t spread to the parents (and teachers) as well? Some of the most painful bullying I’ve ever experienced was not on the school bus, classroom, or playground; it was in a professional work environment, when I was promoted and selected over other internal candidates. What are we teaching our children?
Michelle
AMEN! You and your family are like friends through the radio and your clever blog, so I am sad to hear that people feel the need to act like that. Thank you for bringing this up; yes, social media is a public forum, but it’s still words being said that can’t be taken back. People’s feelings can be hurt, no matter how old you are.
Danni is a wonderful woman – she has a fun personality plus an honest and refreshing perspective on so many subjects, I am thrilled that she joined the show!
Amanda
That is so sad. I live outside the DC area but I can understand how hurtful words can be. And America wonders how and why bullying continues?! Im sorry this added stress has been put on you and your family.
Karen Nahas
Wow. I am shocked that people can be so rude. I guess I always try to see the good in people. I’ve listened to the Kane Show since it came on. I loved Sarah and Sami and now I have grown to love Danni and John. To know people actually said that about her daughter makes me sick.
I’ve also been reading your blog for 4+ years as our kids are the same age (I have a 5 year old girl and 3 year old boy). I love your crafts and although I do have a job outside of the home, being a SAHM is a hard job too! I’ve been following your medical condition and although I rarely comment, you and your family are in my prayers.
Tonie
I listen to the Kane show every morning on my way to work. I stumbled on it one day and never looked back. Yes, I miss Sarah, and will miss Mel, but Danni is a great addition.
I love to craft and found your blog that way, and then, made the connection. I’m obsessed with constantly coming to LPM to see if you have updated, and understand when you can’t. Mean girls was a movie, it shouldn’t be a way of life. I <3 you all and wish everyone the best!
Caityn
I love to craft but I am one of those people who found you because I listen to the Kane Show (so it’s like the best of both worlds) and I just want to say this-
The people who say such things and are so negative are the people who aren’t happy with their own lives. I don’t know who has time to be so negative. You are my hero- a super mommy to those beautiful girls! And can I just say I completely support your SAHM crafting and blogging? The girls LOVE your crafts and you’re trying to turn it into a career where you can spend your time with them- it makes perfect sense. I know you don’t need validation but those comments about you just made me angry!
Alyssa
I saw an image on Instagram the other day that I think everyone needs. It says:
Before you Facebook, Instagram, Text, Tweet
T Is it True?
H Is it Helpful?
I Is it Inspiring?
N Is it Necessary?
K Is it Kind?
ALL people (adults, teens, etc.) should follow this.
Laura
This is WONDERFUL, Alyssa! I am a coach of gymnasts ranging from 6-12. I will be sharing with this at practice this evening!
Carrie
This is so great! I’ll have to search and see if I can find the graphic because I’ll tweet and IG it too! 🙂
Natasha
LOVE that Alyssa, LOVE IT
Lilia
I got VERY upset when I saw that you said someone hoped Danni’s daughter would die. What is wrong with people?! I was getting very agitated by all the hate towards Danni, I mean, where did this come from? What the heck? I have loved her as an addition to the show. People are so rude and act like she’s “ghetto” when she probably has more education than they do.
This post was so genuine and heartfelt and I absolutely love that. I’m so glad you don’t take the ridiculously petty comments to heart. I mean, what’s the point anyway? You are both strong mama’s and I love that. People only talk this way behind a phone/computer because you know at the end of the day they’re just miserable human beings.
Danni if you read this, you have a lot more people who love you than those that will hate on you! You too, Natasha!
Carrie
I listen every morning and heard Kane’s family meeting live. I saw Mel’s post in IG. I completely agree that the hate towards Danni is completely unnecessary. We lead by example and what our kids see is the example that they learn from… why bullying exists at all ages. Just sad….
I think where people and listeners strayed is being able to understand conflicts, being quick to judge, and realizing that details of why someone leaves a job is sometimes confidential for continuity purposes. Everyone should know that there’s two sides to every story but people fail to recognize that in the moment and shift blame to someone else because they are trying to find a reason. Because the listeners feel like the show is family (just like the folks on the show feel like family to each other), they feel betrayed and their reactions, while not appropriate, can be likened to betrayal. The truth of what happened between Mel and the Kane Show lies somewhere in between and people/listeners feel like they are owed that bit of honesty for being such loyal listeners and feeling that family kinship.
Since I’m currently experiencing a family member going through divorce, I see the pain it causes on both sides. At times you feel like you need to take a side when both sides are hurting and it’s a struggle to toe that line. That is what I liken this situation to – due the abruptness, people are looking for a logical explanation and feel like there’s a side to take which isn’t the case but that’s how they are processing it. And sadly, I think that these people voice very rude things to get reactions out of people in the hopes that they spill more details so everything can make sense.
This is FAR from an excuse for people’s reactions and words but I think that is where the hate stems from. While it seems like the 1%-ers multiplied in the last couple of days, I think your words of wisdom to Danni were exactly what needed to be said. Hopefully the hurt will subside quickly and this will be in the past… sooner rather than later!
Danni – Keep your head up! This, too, will pass – be strong!
Natasha
I totally get what your saying Carrie and hadn’t thought of it that way before, thank you for sharing!
Melissa
My friend intro’d me to your blog, then I found out about the Kane show. I love both! 🙂 I can’t believe how mean people are, seriously.
Danni is awesome! Something has happened to our society, people think it’s okay to talk about others in such a mean spirited way, is it because they don’t ‘know’ them? I don’t understand this at all! This continues to get worse as I get older and social media is the way of life.
Please don’t let the negativity keep you down, Danni! There are nice people out here that respect you and think you’re awesome! Ignore the bad and soak in the good 🙂 Rise above! God bless!!
Lisa Yeager
I listen to the show, but I only have a 5 mile drive to work. So, naturally I do not get to listen to much. I think the team has a great together. Dani sounds so sweet and it is great that she speaks her mind. I wish I was like her. I hold thing in and it makes it worse in the end. So, DANI girl keep rocking it and let the haters be just that HATERS. It is hard to believe that these people whom are posting these ill things about you and most importantly your child are actually probably all parents and it is a shame that this is how there children will grow up. If you are old enough to type on a computer, you are certainly old enough to know how to and how not to use your words. So sad! Ignorance is bliss and it seems to be way to much ignorance out there now a days. Keep your chin up girl!
Katie
Natasha,
I’ve been listening to the show since the start. It’s the one that I’ve noticed is more of a family than a job for them. With everyone who has been listening for as long as me, it IS sad that people have to leave. It’s what happens though and it can’t be helped. As for negative comments, you definitely have a great outlook on it. People sometimes just don’t have anything better to do than make other people feel miserable like them. Jealousy is a nasty monster and most of us don’t have such a great hold whatsoever on it. I often think what it would be like to either be famous or be part of someone’s life that’s famous. I don’t see how you all do it. Lots of strength. I hope you feel better.
-Katie
Nicole
What an inspiration to read something like this! It’s a shame that grown “adults” still feel the need to spew hate. I can’t even imagine how cold someone would have to be to make a comment towards not only someone innocent but their innocent child as well. Social media has it’s ups and it’s downs and unfortunately there will always be someone somewhere who is so unhappy in their own lives that they feel the need to hurt others (whether it be physically or with words).
Danni portrays herself on the show as a very strong woman. Sometimes we all need to be reminded of that though. God places girlfriends in our lives for that very reason. “Keep your head up and your heart strong”
xoxo
Jessy
You hit the nail on the head with this one… “…you’re going to get some grown up women who never grew beyond being mean girls that are so unhappy with themselves that their first reaction is to spew hate to others.”
I think this is true in all walks of life and man it is really hard to shake it sometimes. I love The Kane Show and have been a loyal listener for years. I felt a (radio) connection with Mel and miss her already and I still miss Sarah, but that’s no reason to dislike Danni. Just like everyone lashed out at Mel, people are lashing out at Danni. It’s sad and I hope both Mel and Danni can find the inner strength to rise above all that mess.
One thing I learned from Sarah and still try to practice is that when people are unkind to you, it had nothing to do with you and everything to do with them. I really think that is true.
Stay strong, ladies.
Natasha
That is very true Jessy, I completely agree!
Carol Doyle
Nicely put!
AwesomelyOZ
Man I didn’t know Mel left – I haven’t been commuting to work due to the snow so I’ve been out of the loop. Danni does sound like a sweet heart 🙂 Glad you’re surrounded by such awesome people and hope you’re doing well Natasha -Iva
Arleta
I found your blog through a crafty friend, later moved to NoVA and started listening to the show. Now the military has taken us away from the area, but I still miss the morning family. P puts so much into the show to make it feel like tuning into an old friend. I was sad when Sarah left (after all her purse antics got me through commute). But I LOVE Danni, sometimes when I feel lonely here in NC I will stream the show. I think she rounds out the show and brings such positivity. The show now seems complete (not that I don’t think it was complete before)! Love your blog, your strength and your honesty and love that in this transient I know I can feel like home by listening to the show or reading a blurb on your blog. You all are amazing for sharing your raw feelings in a public format and it is deplorable that other women, other moms taking the time to rip other women, other mom’s apart. Hugs to you and all of yours.
Brit
“Do what you feel in your heart is right. You’ll be criticized either way. You’ll be damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. Just remember, no one can make you feel inferior without your own consent.”
My mom used to always repeat that Eleanor Roosevelt quote to me. Wise words. People are rough. Rudeness and bitterness are just a weak person’s imitation of strength. Nothing more.
You both are awesome ;). Keep on keepin’ on.
Danni Starr
Positivity is a beautiful thing and love always wins over hate! Thank you ladies!!!
Rachael
Hi Natasha, first and foremost I want to wish you my best in getting through this difficult time. I came upon your blog after reading some of the comments left on The Kane Show Facebook page. I have been reading comments and following the “Mel saga” for the past two days. I appreciate your sentiment in saying that your husband’s co-workers are like an extended family and you all have become very close with one another. I have listened to the show since before Kane was the host. When he took over, the show became something that I couldn’t wait to listen to when I got in my car. I am however, one of the people that does not like how the show has been since Sara left. Mel actually grew on me but I have to say Danni still has not. I understand you know her personally but as a listener, I do not have that privilege. All I can go on is how she is portrayed and portrays herself through the radio and social media. I want to be honest because just like you, I have read the comments left but I have not come across any that would be considered bullying. I understand there was an email or a comment made apparently talking about Danni’s child and as a mother, that is completely uncalled for and wrong. But I don’t think people should confuse commenting on how one is displeased with the new cast and cyber bullying. If people don’t listen to the show…there is no show. I would think the opinions of the listeners would want to be heard even if they aren’t all good. For me personally, the way Danni was brought on as a former beauty queen and Bridezilla put a sour taste in my mouth. I automatically associated Bridezilla with, well you can guess the stereotype. I have read and heard her say that it was all fake but again, that didn’t do much to curb my first impression of her. I am only writing this because I feel that clumping all negative comments together and classifying them as bullying or mean is just not fair. Ultimately, we all have a right to our opinion, good or bad.
Natasha
I totally agree with you Rachael & trust me when I say this, there has been bullying. Not differences of opinion, that’s perfectly fine, I’m talking straight up mean girl nastiness.
Thank you for the well wishes, I really appreciate it, & for sticking with the show through the changes. (:
Rachael
Thank you Natasha. I am sorry to hear that there are some people out there making just nasty rude comments. That is never OK and as a society we should be more compassionate towards one another. Change is always hard but I love the Kane show and will stick with it. I appreciate you taking the time to read my post and hope it did come across as just a difference of opinion and not that I don’t like anyone personally. On a different note, the picture of you above is gorgeous and keep rockin’ your Mommy blog!
Danni Starr
Rachael, see that’s what I love! You said I haven’t grown on you yet (so your saying there’s a chance) 🙂 that’s a perfectly fine statement. You didn’t call me names, wish bad things on me, just had an opinion and that I can respect. Bridezillas I don’t even explain anymore but I will tell you that as Minnesota I spent a year promoting my platform invest in the youth of today, secure a better tomorrow… That gets lost when people say she was a beauty queen. I was so much more than that, I was an advocate for kids but especially inner city at risk youth. What people here on the air is only a tiny piece of who I am. I hope you give me a chance, but I understand if you don’t. Thank you for respectfully sharing your opinion.
Danni Starr
*miss Minnesota
Rachael
Danni, thank you for sharing some of your background. I admire anyone who advocates for children. I would never wish bad things on anyone and I am sorry if some of the people commenting are taking it to a personal level. I think you are in a tough position being a radio personality because a lot of what you guys do does require you to talk and share things about your life. I only get to hear about 40 mins on my way into work and I will keep listening no matter what changes occur. There is still a chance, LOL!
Amy @ A Little Nosh
I love that there’s a DIALOGUE here…not attacks or nastiness. Way to show ’em how it’s done, Rachael!
BBB
Rachel, I am definitely in your camp. I miss Sarah, I ask about her periodically and never receive texts back. I also agree that a lot of people not quite clicking with Danni and voicing that is not the same as bullying. Part of what has turned me off to Danni is the way she seems to treat some of those negative comments on Facebook. I understand where she’s coming from: she sees 100 positive comments but then glances at the one negative comment and it’s the one that draws her attention. Unfortunately, I don’t agree with the fact that she almost always addresses the negative comment and in a way that’s self-righteous. Her whole approach is very defensive both on and off the air–she can say anything but don’t you dare say something remotely negative about her. To be clear, I’m not trying to bully her here. I don’t think any tragedy should befall her family nor do I want to see bad things happen to her. She is just not a personality I click with and it seems other people agree.
Still, I like Natasha. Really, really like Natasha and if she can see such a wonderful person in Danni then perhaps there is another side to her that is really warm and amazing. I hope Danni takes the opportunity to step out of her usual straight-talking radio persona to show us other facets of her personality that endear her so much to other people who know her personally. Part of why I like reading Natasha’s blog so much is because it’s not just about her being a mom or about crafting or about illness or about any small collection of ideas. She’s a whole person with us and puts all of that out there (side note: I’m not a mom, don’t craft, not ill–again, I just think Natasha is cool and I’m willing to hear whatever she has to say, as I would with any friend). That’s what I want to see from Danni. Right now Danni is the one who talks about her daughter, her TV stints, sex and role play with her husband, and is the one who will give it to you straight. Maybe in radio the idea is to make yourself stand out, brand yourself, and stick to that brand. But again, why did I like Sarah so much, why can I feel so at ease with Kane? Same reason for liking Natasha: I can’t put their characteristics in a box. On the air they are/were whole people that fully express/ed themselves. So, I look forward to the day when we see all of Danni, I’m receptive. Be my friend Danni, don’t be a production.
Cora Crawley
I don’t wish bad on Danni and I pray to God nothing happens to her or her family but I agree with BBB and Rachael.
I feel she has way to much attitude, I have heard her be extremely rude to the other co hosts on multiple occasions, live on the radio, which is unnecessary and uncalled for. I don’t say she has to agree with what the others say or agree to their opinions but there is a way to respectfully handle that type of situation.
LIke BBB and Racheal I haven’t clicked with Danni’s personality and I honestly don’t think I will.
Barbarah
The people talking behind your back, are in the perfect position to kiss your ass. Remember that. Judgement can only hurt you if you let it.
But you’re a good friend to help Danni out. One friend like you wipes out a thousand of mean comments.
Natasha
HA! Oh Barbara that literally made me laugh out loud!
Barbarah
Awesome! I love making people laugh! 🙂
Jay
BLAHH. Reading your blog made me sad for Danni & the Kane Show family. I can only imagine what you guys go through on a daily basis, having to read negative comments and not fighting the urge not to let it bum you out. Exposing bullying is the best thing you could have done, it’s not just Danni going through it, she has to know she has an army of Kane show followers standing behind her on this. I mean you all do! I’ve seen negative comments posted on IG before, John’s IG for example….then I see the outpour of Love from the Kane show followers, attacking whoever put out that mean comment. We may not catch them all but the Kane show family (this includes you and your family) will always have an army to fight with you.
Mindy
the people who wrote those comments about your blog obviously don’t know the entire business women are in *because* of their “carefully crafted” blogs!
Amanda
Honestly if someone actually came out and explained what the issue was with her leaving, all of the bullying and rumors could be solved. I am not a Danni fan or now a fan of the show. I could tell that there isn’t a equal balance. If there’s an issue having a person in Florida, don’t fill that position. If your husband can’t take care of his employees unless they are local, don’t hire outside the city. Seems like there are excuses and not ownership. I do wish you the best of luck with your health. I too have a child and understand how hard that could be.
Natasha
Thanks for the well wishes Amanda, I really do appreciate it. I’m sorry you’re not happy with the show, while I try to separate what I do here with what P does with his show I still don’t like to hear that someone isn’t a fan of what he’s doing. I guess that’s the protective wife side coming out. Just understand it is not as black & white as you think. Boy wouldn’t life be easier if it was!
My husband was being very sweet & mature by taking responsibility for the situation, & honestly since it’s his show at the end of the day he does have to take ownership. It’s also not his place to say why she chose to leave, she’s really the only one who can explain that.
Crystal
A very well written post and important topic that you’ve discussed. This is an issue that has become far too normal in today’s society. I think we’ve all had our fair share of feeling bullied-and no one should have to bear those feelings. Danni, I am so sorry to hear hear that someone could be so cruel with their choice of words towards you (or anyone else who has been a victim, past or present.) Unfortunately, you cannot control what people will have to say, and with that, I hope that you can find peace and happiness amongst the hatred people carry so heavy in their hearts. Personally, I loved having you on the show, and I am saddened to find out through this blog post that you are leaving. With a shortened commute to work, I was unable to continue listening in the mornings. 🙁 I wish for you much success in your future endeavors, and continue to be the wonderful mother that you are to that beautiful baby girl of yours.
Online bullying is something that one person cannot control or eliminate, (although I wish this was the case.) What we can do is instill positivity in those we encounter everyday, in person and online. I usually do not write comments on blogs or other sites because I find it tedious, but I wanted to take this opportunity to share some positivity with you.
Natasha and Danni, you both seem like very devoted mothers and wives, and continue the great job that you’re doing. 🙂
Angie
Amen mama! This was such a sweet post and honest.
Mariesa
I saw some negative comments directed toward Danni as well. I didn’t quite see why the love for Mel needed to come with dislike for Danni. I think Danni is smart and beautiful inside and out. I’m sending good thoughts to the Kane show family old and new!
Wendy
Just read this. Perfection. Exactly. Take a minute and read…
http://www.theveryworstmissionary.com/2014/01/say-anything.html?m=1
Mary
Hi Natasha, I have been following your blog for some time now and also listen to The Kane Show on a daily basis. Your blog entry was spot-on. I was really sorry to hear that Mel had left the show because I loved hearing her perspective and cheerful voice every morning. I wish Mel nothing but the best but as they say, the show must go on! It is sad that people are making such negative comments and wishing evil – even death – on anyone, especially a precious, innocent child. Spewing evil from behind a keyboard is something only a coward would do. On ane other note, I hope you find the answers to your health issues and are pain free very soon. And totally unrelated – has anyone ever told you that you look like Rosanna Arquette/Danielle Jonas?
Christina
Well Said! Natasha – you have such a way with words that I am drawn into each and every entry you post. While I am disgusted and disappointed by the words people type behind screens/keyboards, I am grateful to see that you’re raising awareness about the importance of being kind and treating others the way one would want to be treated (regardless of whether it’s online or in person). I have followed the Kane Show and your blog since the very beginning – keep staying positive and standing up/supporting friends and family <3
You all are lucky and blessed to have one another in your circle :o)
M
Seriously, don’t sweat it.
DCUM is the meanest forum I have encountered. It’s amazing to see the insecurities that these posters display.
If you are being talked in a negative manner, its mainly because they hate your guts, looks, HHI, fame, laid back attitude etc. (or something more mundane)
Once you realize how shallow and insecure these people are, (considering everyone has an Ivy education and are top 1% of HHI) you can actually sip a nice cocktail and have fun at their expense (if you choose).
Sarcasm is completely lost on them, and a 1 line comment can generate pages of froth and foam from the most rabid of the lot.
Ashley
Whenever someone treats me bad, or puts me down, I remember the quote that always makes me feel better: “Truly happy people do not go around destroying other people. So if someone treats you bad, just remember that there is something wrong with them, not you.”
Oby
VERY WELL written Natasha! I can’t even believe how nasty people can be. I’m amazed at how alive bullying is- even at this stage in life. I admire your strength and courage. I know one thing for sure, for every crazy comment from a crazy person, there are 100 other people you’ve inspired. There are always those 1%ers. Thank you for always sharing your story with us. You rock!
Aleena
Didn’t know about how sick you are until Kane did the family meeting yesterday. It led me to your blog and I spent a lot of time reading through it! You are a very strong woman and a role model for anyone going through something difficult because you are giving others hope! And seeing this blog post just made me happier that I am following your blog! For all the people that hate, there are a million more that adore the Kane Show family! Keep smiling, all of you!
Lindsay
Hi! I found you through crafting blogs so don’t know anything about your husband’s radio show or the public persona you have to deal with. But I find your blog delightful- creative, honest, and damn funny- it’s like have another friend! One who has super cool sewing and glitter ideas! From what you say it sounds like Danni is a professional woman trying to juggle home, work, life- just like many of us. I’m sorry people feel the need to tear her (and you) down to make themselves feel better. But good for both of you for not letting them break you. Cheers to you both!!
Jacquie Ramirez
Well said Natasha! I follow both of you ladies on FB, Twitter & IG. I was appalled when I read some of the comments on there from ppl who clearly are just so unhappy w their lives that the only thing they can do is say hurtful ignorant things to ppl they don’t even know on a personal level. This is what still stands true- People, specially the 1%ers will always find something negative to say about anyone whose life is better than theirs. Kane’s ‘family meeting’ was so heart felt and I have so much respect for him. There’s only so much a person can do and he’s doing it ALL and honestly, he didn’t have to talk to us about his personal life- but he CHOSE to bc that’s how dedicated he is to his job and his audience and for that I respect him even more. But as a mom, I cannot imagine how Danni felt reading that ignorant comment that clearly came from someone who isn’t happy with themselves. I’m so glad that she has you and I’m so glad that you followed your heart and blogged about it. So for both, you n Danni here’s a little something I hope you ALWAYS remember- Don’t let someone dim your light simply because it’s shinning in their eyes. Thank you for using your blog in a positive way and Danni, I admire how passionate you are about life, your husband and your baby girl MJ. You’re as real as real can be- don’t let anyone change that about you.
Dee
Well said! and it remindes me of the situation Brene Brown found herself in after her (now viral Ted talk) After reading the nasty and personal comments attacking her after this talk, she stumbled upon The Theodore Roosevelt speech ““It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly.”
Charmayne
I absolutely love your blog Natasha! Your girls are adorable and I love the Kane Show! Danni you are a fresh of breath air to the Kane Show. I love love love how openly honest you are, Keep up the good work!
Cristine C.
There is good and bad in this world, with out the bad there would be less inspiration for good. People can’t help but to hate sometimes because they are jealous that they don’t have what the person they are hating on has. Most of us know and have been through this at some point in our lives, whether it was having the cute boy in school as your boyfriend or being the most popular girl in school.
I have to say that you are an inspiration to me, everytime I read one of your blogs it makes me feel happy. You are such a ray of sushine even when you’re not feeling too sunshiny! LOL I love the Kane Show and all it’s colorful characters, specailly Danni because she’s a woman and she’s handling her business.
Danni, if you read this, or for that matter to anyone who takes the time to read this…let the haters hate. That’s how you know you’re important and the haters life wouldn’t be complete with out you! You have what they could only dream to have. Regarding your little girl and the mean comments, know that KARMA is a “woman” (trying not to cussss) and although I don’t wish anyone bad things, anyone who wishes bad things upon others get that negativity returned back to them. Also know that God all mighty is taking care of you and your family, always. Soooo, never worry about what others have to say, all it is, is…words.
That is all. =)
Natasha
Thank you for your kind words Cristine, I will pass what you said along to Danny & please know that what you said about the blog has totally made my day, you have no idea! (:
Jen
This is great Natasha! People throw stones because they are insecure about themselves. To ever wish death upon someone is just awful. As you said, people doing it anonymously makes it worse, or better for some. But the fact of the matter is that it’s truly unacceptable. I’ve been listening to your husbands show, and following your blog for years. I may not know you, but your a part of my day. Good day or bad day, the Kane show can always make me smile. You sharing your stories, recipes, crafts, inspires me. Danni may been new at one point, but now, it’s like shes always been there. Love to all!
Kelly
I found your blog because I love your husband’s radio show, but I became a loyal follower because of YOUR blog content 🙂 (and I’m not even a mom, so consider this a compliment.)
We punish children for bullying, yet not adults. Where do we think they learn it from? Regardless of whether or not you like someone, bashing them only makes the ‘hater’ look bad. Speaking of time, if you have “so much free time you should get a job instead of blogging” then why don’t these classless individuals spend their time volunteering or get a hobby, one that doesn’t involve online bullying.
I once stood up for a girl on twitter who was being bullied incessantly. She then tweeted “today a girl I don’t know stood up for me, my faith in humanity is restored.” That made me feel good, but then realized how sad of a world we live in that standing up for someone is more difficult then bullying them? So, good for you Natasha. Maybe you’ve influenced bullies by writing this post or have shown them to stand up for others.
One last thing, to her disgusting bullies, here’s a quote “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”
Sending good vibes the LPM/Kane Show way 🙂
Emm
I don’t follow your blog on a regular basis, although I’m going to start, but I have been listening to the Kane Show for years. I love all of them! As sad as I was that Sarah and Sammi left and now Mel, I love the group that’s there now. You can tell that they are all genuine people & are so sweet & funny. There will always be haters but you have to brush that off & focus on the positive. One of my favorite quotes is, “Be Kind – for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.”
I hope you get your medical issue figured out & treated. Feeling that way certainly isn’t fun. Hugs & prayers to you & the whole Kane Show family!
Natasha
Wow, that is a GREAT quote Emm, I’m totally stealing that!
Kim
I listen to your husband’s show on a regular. I do miss Sarah being on the show but I like Danni too. I am glad you asking for encouragement for her, its one thing to say mean things but threaten someone is much different. Danni, just keep being you and forget about the haters!
I have only been to your blog one other time but after hearing about the pain your going through I wanted to reach out to you. I know you probably get a lot of advice or emails suggesting to try things, so I hope you don’t mind me sharing. I have not experience what your going through but I have had my own health issues over the last couple of years. So I know what it is like to search for answers and feel lost in the process of modern medicine. In my process of searching for answers, I have actually gone gluten free and although it has not fixed everything I can say I feel better without eating it. I never got tested for celiacs but realized I had a lot of the symptoms for it but never knew it until I stopped eating gluten. I just thought those symptoms were normal. For some reason I felt compelled to share this with you.
http://www.neuropathy.org/site/News2?id=8201
I know Danni is also Gluten-Free so if you decide to try it I am sure she could help.
Once again, I hope you don’t mind. I truly wish you the best! Take Care.
Natasha
Thank you so much Kim, I’ve gone gluten free for the last several months and now am “gluten-low”, lol, I doubt thats even a real term. I can’t wait to read the article you sent me though, I havent heard anything yet about how it can relate to neuropathy issues. Thank you!
Amy @ A Little Nosh
Hi Natasha! I’ve found that when women are insecure (myself included!), we tend to hate on other women that have what we want…they’re pretty, smart, creative, etc. And you’re right, there’s a certain anonymity that allows people to say the most awful things, with really no reason to do so besides their own hatred of themselves. I’m so sorry that you and Danni are on the receiving end of those Mean Girls’ remarks. They’re ignorant and jealous, and to say such an awful thing about a CHILD makes me sick.
Miesha
Hi Natasha! I must start off by saying that I never ever ever post comments other than on Facebook or IG, but I had to address this. I have been listening to podcasts at work for about 5 years now. Honestly, they get me through the day at work. I loved the old cast and I miss Sami and Sarah immensely. However, I have grown to love the new cast. While I am upset about Mel leaving, I also know that things happen. At the end of the day, you have to do what’s best for you. Personally, I’ve grown to love Danni. She is honest. Honest in a way where nothing is “sugar-coated” which many people are not used to. They’re used to an “artificial truth.” And yet every one is so quick to judge. Truth is, we live in an ass-backward society. I’ve actually had a chance to meet her and Slim at the Beyonce concert. They left early (assuming they had to get home to baby MJ) but still took time to take a pic with me. I could totally see myself hanging out with her. And I loved her before I met her for that brief minute (for all the haters). What is up with us as women, pinning one against the other. We need to start uplifting each other and stop acting holier than thou.
P.S. I actually feel bad for addressing this as an after thought. I absolutely love your blog! I’m super artsy and I’m a mom, so it’s so relatable. I honestly think people look up up just to say mean things. Otherwise what’s the point?! If something ain’t for you, it ain’t for you. Move on. No need to bash anyone. Easier said than done, I know. I’m guilty too. I’ll criticize someone’s outfit or laugh at someone. Learned behavior that I hate to admit. But I will never understand how someone gets to the state where they purposefully search for something just so they can criticize, judge, and bash it.
Now back to your blog. I was trying to find the post about Sam’s Katy Perry party. I need birthday ideas for my soon-to-be five year old. It’s probably typos all through these. But you know what I mean 😉
Natasha
Very well said, very well said indeed!
Let me know if you need any help with the Katy Perry Party projects, it was by far my favorite party to do!
Kathleen
Hi Natasha, my name is Kathleen. My friend sent me the link to your blog after she read about your health condition. She thought, “Gosh…this is exactly what Kathleen is going through.” Unfortunately, I know first hand how you feel and what you have been through.
I’m a 25 year old postpartum nurse and have been experiencing fluctuating pain in my neck, shoulders, arms, spine, lower back, and hips since I was 17. I also have random numbness, tingling, and sometimes burning sensations throughout my body. (I would list other symptoms, but there may be a word limit to these comments.) I have been through counseling multiple times, physical therapy twice, two chiropractors, a neurologist who thought I just needed a psychiatrist, and rheumatologist. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia in April 2012 and have been on many medications, none of which have helped much (or the side effects outweigh the benefits).
All of my labs have been normal over the last 7 years, with the slight exception of low blood sugar and slightly elevated liver enzymes from all the medication, and have heard the “it’s just stress”, “maybe it’s your diet”, “are you sure it’s not all in your head?”, or the worst, “I’m sorry :-\…” too many times to remember.
I took the rude neurologist’s advice and went to a psychiatrist. He is an amazing doctor who took 2 hours to interview me and hear my story from my mother’s pregnancy with me up until the present. He prescribed Lexapro, an antidepressant, for my underlying depression and anxiety. I can’t tell you how much it has helped my life, because it’s practically inevitable to have FM without anxiety and depression to some degree, right? How can you live in constant, agonizing, idiopathic pain without feeling a little anxious and depressed? It took a serious mental breakdown for me to go see the psychiatrist because I literally COULD NOT stand to live in my body another day. I am sure you must understand. In October 2012, I wanted to sleep my life away.
Today, I’m seeing a rheumatologist, who is treating me with Nabumetone, an NSAID, like Motrin, to reduce the inflammation, but so far I’m not sure it’s helping. What IS helping is yoga, deep stretching in these spastic muscles. I’m over taking Flexeril that makes me feel drunk. I wanted to try something more holistic, and so far, so good. Interestingly, my older brother has the same symptoms I have, he has not been diagnosed, but we are so alike it’s scary. I just downloaded Yoga Studio on my iPhone and do 15- or 30-minute sessions most days and it helps relieve the spasms almost immediately.
It helps me to read your blog and know that I’m not alone in this horrific journey. You are welcome to email me at khager23@gmail.com. We will get through this!!!
Sending gentle hugs your way…
Natasha
Wow, Kathleen you have been through the ringer my friend! Thank you so much for taking the time to share your story, I really need to hear it today too because I know yoga & stretching would help me tremendously but I’m so darn tired today that I’ve spent much of the day on the couch. ):
I 100% agree with you about the anxiety/depression link & I’m so happy Lexapro works for you, I’ve actually tried that before but the side effects were too yucky for me.
Thank you so much for taking the time to share your story, you’re absolutely right, “We will get through this!”
Keep in touch and ‘gentle hugs’ right back to you! (the fact that you said that…I know you get it!)
Kathleen
So about the very next day after I wrote to you and after a routine visit to the GYN, I found out that I also have Pelvic Floor Dysfunction. Specifically, it’s a rectocele. Great. I immediately thought of you, and didn’t feel so alone… The problem is I’m very young and don’t have any children. WTF? The colorectal surgeon suggested an MRI to determine the degree of the rectocele and then physical therapy (Kegals?!) and/or surgery. What did your doctor recommend for you? Is it getting any better?
We WILL get through this!
Katie
I got goosebumps reading this. Just wanted to show my support. Love to all of you! Both you and the radio show bring me so much happiness, I cant imagine how someone can say anything negative about any of you!!!
Also, always praying for you to get better 🙂 Love you!!
Maria Eligwe
Hi Natasha, I was holding back the tears reading this post. I am praying for you, your husband, and baby girls. Please please know that God is a healer. You are a wonderful wife and mother and those two positions are the BEST careers a woman can EVER have! You are truly blessed, with sickness and all!
James 5:14-15
14 Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. 15 And the prayer of faith will save the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.
Lisa
OMG, I just read this post. Natasha, you seem to be such a strong woman, wonderful mommy and fabulous wife. I wish you all the best.
I have listened to the Kane show since it began. It’s been wonderful. I think Danni is amazing and I have found that people who are so honest and so willing to share their lives get hate for it. I don’t understand. I think if someone is willing to go out there on a limb and be so honest, you should give them credit for what a wonderful person they are trying to be. I have 3 young boys, almost 7, 5 1/2 and a 3 year old. It’s super hard with young kids, whether you work full time outside of the home or full time at home. It’s hard being a mom and every woman and man need to learn to understand that.
I give you both props for being such wonderful, strong mommies!
Jacinta
“If I was a SAHM, would I spend my time making little crafty things? Probably not.”
Um then what WOULD you do?? Having your kids growing up in a creative environment is SO good for them! I know the reason that I’m a crafty person and I do lots of crafty things with my girls (which covers all types of learning from patience, to maths, to science, to life skills etc etc) is because my Mum did crafty stuff with my sister and I when we were little! (and my Mum is a teacher, so that’s gotta be saying something!!).
Haters gotta hate, but us lovers of life will always love! So love, love, love to you and your family and to your extended radio family too!!!!! xxxxxxxxx
Natasha
Amen to that!
Corinna Bonk
Honestly – this is just sad. I’ve been in an ‘online’ situation like this and I know it’s hurtful – but time after time, I just realize these people are sad and they only read things online to snap back with negative responses. There are people like us that spend time online to share, care, research, give, learn, craft, etc. But the majority are people who literally have no life, are insecure and want to hide behind a computer screen to judge people. I just can’t figure it out. And the person who said this, “f I was a SAHM, would I spend my time making little crafty things? Probably not.”” < — ya, well that goes to show you. She would be a shi**y SAHM then. Don't give these people a second thought. I know that is impossible and I keep telling myself that nothing will surprise me but I still tend to believe the best in people and what do ya know – one week later, I'm surprised by the negativity in people. Keep your head up. I love your blog and I love that you are so open hearted!
Carmen
I read this post and had to make a comment. When I was a stay-at-home I started a little blog. One day I wrote a very brief post on how I would be emotionally distraught leaving my child in daycare. Suddenly the trolls at DC Urban Mom and Dad latched on to that one statement and started saying awful things about me, but it didn’t stop there. It ventured into creepy. They started posting my full name and address online and making comments about how they should come by. Not to mention all the other terrible things a person can say about intellect, looks and so on. I was so scared, I contacted a lawyer friend of mine to see if I had a case to have the website taken down as a legit threat . Finally the owner of the website realized what was going on and removed all my sensitive information. I also think he was a little worried and agreed to remove the threads all together. But he was hesitant at first since drama sells. After telling him I had consulted a lawyer, he agreed to remove everything as long as I didn’t write a negative blog about the incident. What was really interesting about all this, is the first person who started the fire storm posted from within the CIA building. Glad to see hard earned money going towards funding a bunch of lazy, bored “working” women.
Natasha
Thanks for sharing your story Carmen, sadly it doesn’t surprise me. Mom on mom drama seems to be so common, it’s like those caddy, mean high school girls grown into caddy, mean grown women. It’s so sad! I’m really sorry you had to deal with it, the internet can be a mean place to move into. ):
Stephanie
That is insane about Danni. Danni is such a great addition to the show, John too. People need to grow up. Danni seems like such a nice, sweet, genuine person. Danni was only on for a short time before Marriage Boot Camp started. She was the only reason I watched it. I got into a debate with my husband about Bridezillas because when I saw Danni’s episode, that is when I realized how unreal reality tv was. That is not her AT ALL! She is not the brat they made her out to be, no way. My husband asked me if I knew her, i said no but I sure listen to her everyday and that is not her, not at all.
People make rude comments like that because they can hide behind the key board. That is the problem today.
People don’t like change. I remember when Kane first started I was like, really, who is this? Now, I don’t even remember who the host of the last morning show was. His show is that awesome. 🙂
It is so awesome you guys are such a close knit family.
I know this is late, but I was on maternity leave and it took me a bit to figure out what happened to Melanie.
Marie
I’m just so shock on how people can be so cruel now a days. Thank you for writing this Natasha I started following your page today on IG, and came upon your post about Danni. I can’t believe that someone said something like that about a child “PERIOD”!!!! Smh… I follow Danni as well and seems to like a sweet, and guinine person. Danni I love you on the show and can not stand bullies. Keep doing what you are doing I will forever be your #1 Fan. Natasha I love your blog and your family. Keep it up girl. 🙂